Tuesday, November 29, 2005

the death of secularism

The death of secularism:
An instruction on survival.


The modern world is over.
Secularism and rationality have been sacrificed on the bloody, twin altars of the holy and the moral, and the Godly and the good.
You can either hold onto the light of the past, and find you’re self in darkness, or strike a new flame and light you’re way through this forest of blood, till you come to the place where the blossom is plentiful and mind has returned to man.

3 comments:

Phillip R Goodman said...

the following comment [posted under my name] is a critique of this post ganered from a person on the outside then follows my comment on the critique.

Phillip R Goodman said...

The Death of Secularism? –
A Riposte

The modern world ended when Nazi Germany invaded Czechoslovakia, so precipitating – eventually – the second world war.
Modernism lived on in hope until – inevitably – people wanted a change; a change from the powerful, spare and sleek, to the bland, frilly and everything the same.
One clings to light even in the most profound darkness. To light a candle in the dark night of complete secularism is to bring the Holy into banal, everyday life.
Look around you. To believe that the beauty of this planet is there by chance is to cast rationality into the darkest pit of unknowing devised by a being without thought.
Enjoy.

Phillip R Goodman said...

The Death of Secularism?
A Riposte.

A Riposte:


It is always important to remember that Nazism was not only a political philosophy but also a religious one. If one were to look at the SS not just for their actions but also for the way that they were organised one would see endless streams of ritual, dogma, and indoctrination. I think it would not be unreasonable to say that without this indoctrination those actions because of which they are so rightly despised would have been impossible for them to carry out. Remember this most members of the SS were very young people chosen because their looks were in accordance with Nazi beliefs about race. The Nazis were not some secular, atheistic, nihilists as many would now have us believe but more likely a strange extremist cult wishing to de-Jew Christianity and infuse it with neo-pagan blood sounds like religion doesn’t it. This as well as much of European history as well as present happenings in the world should convince anyone of the very deep need for a secular society with atheism, liberalism, and science at its core as opposed to religion, morality, and superstitious old traditions.


As for the particulars of what you, say:

1 After the second world war western society began to get increasingly liberal it is the reversal of this process that I believe is currently happening.

2 You began by saying essentially that the modern world has already died and that we need and indeed have already moved on from it however you then say that we should hold onto the past. Perhaps we are each speaking of different pasts.

3 A being without thought could not devise anything.

4 When the religious right protests against Marilyn Manson and Jerry Springer or bomb abortion clinics perhaps they are trying to bring the holy into banal everyday life [usually someone else’s].